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    Jumper

    You might want to confirm the "report". I mean look at the source of the story. Talon news and trav? Could you find two less trustworthy sources?

    I'm on the move on mailing list and I have not received any email blaming bush for the bad weather. Somehow I think talon and trav are, as usual, full of shit.

    I do personally think that perhaps if there is a god that this is payback for the last voting debacle but that's just me.

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    LOL,

    When we were securing the office on the Friday before last for the possibility of a direct strike by Ivan it was the 3rd weekend we had one looming at us (Charley, Frances, Ivan). I mentioned to a coworker "You think all these hurricanes hitting Florida in 2004 are for the 2000 election debacle?" My supervisor laughed and said "Never thought of that!" and then added "Wait a minute, aren't you a Republican?" I just winked for my answer. [img]wink.gif[/img]

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    MoveOn: Bush to Blame For 'Extreme' Hurricane Season
    By Jimmy Moore
    Talon News
    September 23, 2004

    SPARTANBURG, SC (Talon News) -- Attempting to take political advantage of the devastating hurricanes that have hit Florida and the southeastern section of the United States in the past few weeks, liberal political action group MoveOn.org is saying that President George W. Bush is to blame for "making extreme weather stronger."

    In an e-mail to supporters, MoveOn.org rhetorically asks "why such extreme weather" has taken place with Hurricanes Charley, Frances, and Ivan causing billions of dollars in property damage and loss of life.

    "Scientists agree that global warming makes sea levels rise and makes storms stronger, because temperature shifts disrupt the normal balance," MoveOn.org explained. "Warmer water makes more violent hurricanes."

    The group added that insurance companies such as Swiss Re and Munich Re say "global warming is causing more losses."

    Ridiculing President George W. Bush for "handing out emergency aid" in Florida while doing "nothing to reduce global warming," MoveOn.org contends that the president has "done a lot to make the problem worse" and has caused the massive hurricanes to form.

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    I want to know what Bush knew and when did he know it?!

    If there weren't people out there like Pina who believe this stuff, I'd be laughing.

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    I knew eventually some nutcase would say something like this. In fact just about every hurricane my cousin and I joke in emails that it was "Bush's fault"..

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    It's all Bush's falt.


    Hurricane Boom Could Last Decades

    Chris Landsea, a hurricane researcher at NOAA in Miami, said more hurricanes are forming over the Atlantic Ocean because its water is a bit warmer than it was in the early 1990s.

    Hurricanes draw their energy from warm ocean water. Since 1995 the temperature of the Atlantic has been, on average, one-half degree to one degree Fahrenheit (0.3 degree to 0.6 degree Celsius) warmer than was in the early 1990s, he said.

    Landsen and Gray, the Colorado State University meteorologist, think the increased number of hurricanes is part of a weather cycle that's been going on for a very long time. "It does appear to be a natural cycle," Landsea said. "We see evidence for this over the last several hundred years. It doesn't seem to be related to any possible greenhouse gas forming."

    Gray thinks changes in the salinity of the Atlantic are a major factor in the cycles. When the salt content is higher, the ocean is warmer and more storms form. It takes decades for this cycle to complete itself, he said.

    "We see these major storms going up and down on a decadal basis," Gray said. "You can't link it to global warming. It's ridiculous to blame [an increase in hurricanes] on human-induced greenhouse gasses coming up into the atmosphere."

    Researchers have used weather records to identify hurricane cycles dating back to at least the late 19th century. But new research is revealing possible clues to hurricane cycles thousands of years ago.

    Kam-biu Liu, a professor of geology at Louisiana State University, has concluded that there was a "hyperactive" period of hurricanes affecting what is now the Gulf Coast, lasting from about 3,400 years ago to about 1,000 years ago.

    "Since about a thousand years ago, it's gone back to a relatively quiet period," Liu said.

    The current increase in hurricanes is only a small fluctuation within this longer millennial cycle, according to Liu. Forecasters can't say exactly how long the current cycle will last. During the past century periods of increased activity have lasted 25 to 30 years.

    The Atlantic warmed up in 1926 and stayed warm until the late 1960s, according to Gray. There was a corresponding period of active hurricane seasons. The Atlantic was cooler from the late 1960s until 1995, when it warmed again and started spawning more storms.

    Gray thinks the current warming trend could last another 10 or 20 years. That could mean trouble, because coastal development and population growth exploded during the calm summers between 1970 and 1995.

    "It's inevitable that we'll see property damage way beyond what we've ever had before," Gray said. "Not so much because more hurricanes will make landfall, but because there's more property there now."

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    I know Bush can be blamed for a ton of shit but creating stronger hurricanes..give me a freakin break.

    I know the US is responsible for somewhere between 25-45% of greenhouse gases but come on folks, we ain't the only one in this Ro-day-O!

    MoveOn.org, while I liked them initially is quickly becoming a radical, facist, pinko-commie, crap spewing organization.

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    Originally posted by Pi?a:
    I do personally think that perhaps if there is a god that this is payback for the last voting debacle but that's just me.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pina = cheeky smiley 024

    And how many recounts do you need?

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